tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.comments2023-10-18T15:20:33.029+01:00cesarean debate (now caesareanbirth.org)cesarean debatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01711913972260724246noreply@blogger.comBlogger249125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-44813323222885549602022-07-01T10:00:28.744+01:002022-07-01T10:00:28.744+01:00Shame on then I fell disappointed Shame on then I fell disappointed Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-33485281666856390022017-09-08T06:08:40.771+01:002017-09-08T06:08:40.771+01:00This is a ridiculous article I have had three c se...This is a ridiculous article I have had three c sections and one VD by body is destroyed from the c sections are you insane?? My bowel bladder and uterus are all adhered together causes me pain every single day and I am from my youngest baby 13 months pp with my VD I was fine a few hours later!!!! A c section isn't something to be taken lightly it is not a procedure it is major abdominal surgery that carries great risk while lying on the table and long term consequences for the rest of my life!!!!!! Bunch bams writing this Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076697153277255027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-79676222614868513642017-07-01T10:38:34.097+01:002017-07-01T10:38:34.097+01:00Base on this and i dare quote"The babies who ...Base on this and i dare quote"The babies who died couldn't be assessed for their early child development, but by excluding their demise from the data, this research is unhelpful for the purpose claimed:",i agree with you in totality,my wife had a stillbirth two weeks ago of seven months (26weeks)pregnancy and no assessment was done on the dead kid.This confirms your point and research. Thank youMwathahttp://healthservices.uonbi.ac.kenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-33166608672447566682017-04-03T23:11:55.493+01:002017-04-03T23:11:55.493+01:00The reason you wait is because if you have an acci...The reason you wait is because if you have an accident, the steering wheel heating your abdomen which has an internally sewn up uterus, can hemorrhage. The risk gorgeous dic, blood clots, & other complications are very real, which is why it is suggested you wait and allow your body to heal. <br />Laura,RNC BSN MSN Labor&del & trauma Lauren jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01146919001410326040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-45962971625829036972017-02-01T04:32:45.768+00:002017-02-01T04:32:45.768+00:00That is very brave of you. I am so glad I had 5 c....That is very brave of you. I am so glad I had 5 c. Sections after reading this. Natural birth fanatics over here in Australia demonize c. Sections & one of these women bled to death during Vaginal delivery. The leader of the movement's baby died due to her insistance on vaginal delivery no matter what. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14304249006567805483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-42351313699573819912016-09-29T20:29:31.626+01:002016-09-29T20:29:31.626+01:00Thank you very much Andy; I appreciate you taking ...Thank you very much Andy; I appreciate you taking the time to comment and I'm pleased you found our book so useful. <br />Your final comment hits the nail on the head; informed choice is precisely what is needed.cesarean debatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01711913972260724246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-33191833071747497782016-09-29T20:17:31.611+01:002016-09-29T20:17:31.611+01:00Your book was a fantastic resource for me when I w...Your book was a fantastic resource for me when I was fighting the NHS to be "allowed" a c section for my second birth after numerous issues following my first vaginal birth two years previously. It took 30 weeks and (thank god) a very supportive GP and community midwife to push obstetricians at my local hospital to finally get a c section agreed to. <br />I think it's crazy that in this day and age that there is so much misinformation surrounding vaginal birth- why on earth can't we all have a reasonable discussion? There are risks involved with both- here they are, here are the facts: which do you prefer? Fairly simple. Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933284325035389526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-66392648935587869202016-09-07T18:37:41.167+01:002016-09-07T18:37:41.167+01:00I am from the U.S. - but I had what I consider to ...I am from the U.S. - but I had what I consider to be a forced vaginal birth. I had a vaginal birth 13 months ago, which I am still struggling to recover from mentally and physically. It was a long and barbaric labor. I chose midwife care because I was mistaken in believing they would provide the same level of care as an obstetrician but offer the emotional support I thought I would need. My expectations were far from the reality of my experience. My delivering midwife was atrocious. I had already been pushing for five hours when the shifts changed and she came on duty. When she was around she treated me like a barn animal. I was demanding to know what my other options were. Her simple answer, "Well, there's the vacuum, the forceps, or c-section, and you DON'T want that." No reasons as to why I would choose one or the other, or why I shouldn't. I advised that I couldn't make a decision without understanding the risks. She spent thirty minutes hunting down a doctor to tell me about the vacuum (I think you call it a ventouse) and the forceps. I kept saying, I will not allow this without understanding the risks. Through my stomach turning contractions this doctor was explaining to me the risks of these procedures. Why had no one told me this was a possibility before? Why hadn't I been made to understand the risks of forceps or vacuum before I went into labor, rather than trying to understand these issues through contractions? All he had to say was "possibility of brain damage" for me to demand a c-section. The midwife took over an hour to find another doctor to perform a c-section (we were in a hospital, mind you, not Antarctica). By the time she showed up with a doctor, my baby was crowning. I believe my midwife purposefully and with intent lied to me about the size of my baby, my specific risk factors related to my GD, did not tell me the risks or reasons why one would need forceps or vacuum (which I thank God every day I did not use). <br /><br />In the end, I had a nine pound baby, although I was guaranteed by 2 different midwifes he would be seven pounds. I suffered first and second degree tears. It has been 13 months, and I still suffer through sexual intercourse. I have doubts I will ever be able to enjoy sex with my husband again. I wish my choices had been honored. I wish I had been treated like a human being. I wish I had been given the right of informed consent.<br /><br />Intervention rates will ALWAYS be lower with a midwife - because they will lie and risk you and your baby to get that vaginal delivery. My next birth will be maternal request c-section.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-824076361806535632016-07-09T16:25:47.174+01:002016-07-09T16:25:47.174+01:00In 2016 obstetrics remains stubbornly adverse to p...In 2016 obstetrics remains stubbornly adverse to providing full disclosure and informed consent. Think there is no misogyny in obstetrics? Think again. The harm done to women by the refusal to admit they were wrong to say planned vaginal births are safer and cheaper than planned cesareans is astronomical and the longer they continue with this bogus claim the more credibility and trust they lose. Turning that ship around will, indeed, be hard for them but the longer they wait the harder it will be. Penny Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333678539499520206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-47447101974181096782016-03-20T13:07:11.487+00:002016-03-20T13:07:11.487+00:00Great post!Great post!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14428315304604099802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-2820993223267079852016-02-23T16:17:53.434+00:002016-02-23T16:17:53.434+00:00I suffered a horrendous natural birth. I tore so b...I suffered a horrendous natural birth. I tore so badly that I needed 2 hours of repair surgery, lost lots of blood, 35 internal stitches and 11 externally. I had intense pain and discomfort for months afterwards, had to see a specialist gynae physio to help with continence issues, and still have scar problems. Sex was painful for nearly 3 years. Why, after that, should I have to fight for a planned, elective c section, where I know the risks and what happens, with a scar I can manage (as opposed to having so many vaginal exams by random medical people to make sure it was healing) or be forced to deal with the emotional trauma of natural birth, and face it happening again? I had post partum depression badly after birth, partly attributed to this. <br />Women should have a choice, and if a cesearean section is going to help her mentally and physically, then she shouldn't have to fight for it, and be treated like she's abnormal. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-61305475981872280492015-05-09T12:08:46.917+01:002015-05-09T12:08:46.917+01:00Dear,
If I was to comment in detail on all of you...Dear,<br /><br />If I was to comment in detail on all of your points an show that one could reasonably say the exact opposite sustained by research or at least show the same amount of flaws in studies you cite to proof your point, this comment would be a book in itself. So please let me say just a few things: If you would really sustain would you say: women getting what they want, you should as well support women who want an out of hospital birth. Secondly, what you all the birth outcomes is not the only important point, and if you would have had the chance to see and feel your self the satisfaction and profound bounding and happiness after a drugfree normal delivery and the amounts of women wishing they would not have had a caesaerean, you mind see things different. About the comparison to the Netherlands: it is flawed, first because t has been shown that the higher rates of adverse perinatal outcomes are not merely related to out of hospitalbirth (actually the rates are higher in France and the Balticum where highly medicalized hospital-births are the standard!), and countries countries with mainly midwifery led care but far better outcomes like New Zealand are excluded from your argument. And if you talk about long term costs: why not include the costs of higher rates of long term illness of c/s born kids: of digestion difficulties, diabetes, stress related and psychological problems, asthma, allergies and so on...<br />And why is it a problem women wishing on to one care... and choose out of hospital birth because the system, though aware of that wish, doesn't change a thing about it. ..<br />Well, I feel I am on the way for a book... <br />However, I am just sad, because you don't even know what you have been really doing to yourself, your kids an the world and I wish someone had helped you in a reflected manor before you gave birth so you could have overcome whatever made you so afraid of your innate female capacity.<br />Best wishes and good luck with being really reflective the next time!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-78867325110295573342015-02-02T21:07:49.208+00:002015-02-02T21:07:49.208+00:00I'm due to give birth in the same hospital sho...I'm due to give birth in the same hospital shown in the video and I also want CS for medical reasons. Thank you for postng this as now I know what I'm up against. I'm horrified at how the consultant blatantly lies to this woman ('CS won't stop you tearing' - WHAT??!!?) and how he and the midwife try to bully the woman into having what is obviously going to be a dangerous and traumatic birth. They just totally ignore her. Thank god she got what she needed in the end but I can imagine the fight she had to put up to get what she needed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-83464711567439104582014-11-17T16:06:05.548+00:002014-11-17T16:06:05.548+00:00Thank you so much for your kind words and for taki...Thank you so much for your kind words and for taking the time to let me know your wonderful news.<br /><br />I'm so happy that you had the birth experience you wanted, and more importantly, a beautiful baby boy (who will now be guaranteed a full education because of his lucky birth date). <br /><br />Your message has made my day, and I'm really glad that I was able to help in however small a way.<br /><br />If you see this message, and if you'd be comfortable doing so, may I ask you to email me at info@electivecesarean.com with any information at all on whereabouts in the UK you gave birth please. Just the hospital name (or Trust name) is fine if you'd prefer not to name your obstetrician. <br /><br />I only ask because so much of the correspondence I receive is from women who are facing refusals to their caesarean requests in the NHS, and it would be wonderful to have more good examples of how it can - and should - be done if NICE guidance is properly followed.<br />cesarean debatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01711913972260724246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-27343029886597099722014-11-17T15:14:31.846+00:002014-11-17T15:14:31.846+00:00I've been following your blog for a very long ...I've been following your blog for a very long time, and was aware of your new campaigning through the media but just wanted to say keep up the good work. <br /><br />In the period of your absence, things have changed a lot in my life. I now have a beautiful son born by ELCS for mental health and personal reasons. My experience of getting an ELCS on the NHS was wonderful and hassle free. I would like to thank you, as I do feel that you helped pave the way for it being a stress free none judgemental experience for me. Without your website, I'm not sure if I would ever have been able to empower myself enough to even consider having a baby. In the end it was not only possible, but also a positive experience.<br /><br />My son was, ironically, born on 1st September at 39+2 weeks. I was given the choice of having him in August or September as the recommended 39 weeks fell on a weekend. I decided for health reasons to opt for waiting a couple of extra days. <br /><br />The difference of this for the rest of his life really wasn't lost on me, especially given your latest campaigning. It was relief to get to the day of my op as planned, for more than one reason. <br /><br />Good luck. I'm sure you'll have every success with your latest endeavours. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-31250676462379497652014-11-15T10:57:32.899+00:002014-11-15T10:57:32.899+00:00really? do some mothers honestly think it is okay ...really? do some mothers honestly think it is okay to drive so soon after surgery that has cut through the muscles. sure, you would more than likely be fine for a short trip with no incidents. but imagine taking your child to school, newborn in his carseat. you are taking it nice and steady and another child runs out in front. you brake but it pulls a tender muscle and you aren't in control any more. the damage you would do to your own uterine wall and stomach would be the least thing to worry about after that. just because you feel fine on the outside doesn't mean that all is healed and fine on the inside.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-63473940628117420582014-11-08T19:34:16.283+00:002014-11-08T19:34:16.283+00:00Most doctors recommend not driving for about 6 wee...Most doctors recommend not driving for about 6 weeks. Waiting this long serves both safety and health requirements. It was the same for me when I had my C-Sections but I think I waited about 5 weeks. I felt pretty good and no longer had pain so I didn't wait the full 6 weeks. However it's best to remember that just because you no longer have pain that it's OK to drive sooner. There'are internal stitches that still have to heal and flexing abdominal muscles can cause problems and driving does require abdominal muscles. Elizabethhttp://www.worry-free-c-section.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-59839759446442415472014-02-13T08:52:38.780+00:002014-02-13T08:52:38.780+00:00You are running a great webpage. Any mother who wa...You are running a great webpage. Any mother who wants a c-section has every right to it, whatever the reason without question. They are the ones who have to go through the pain, no one else has any right to mandate this. I'm just glad I don't have to go through child birth period. As for Bupa? Criminals, siphoning funds away as they ransack the NHS and any Nations precious health funds they can get their disgusting hands on. Their arrogance soon to get the better of them as the US explodes against their type after decades of stand over fraud, their victims left with no choice but to pay or meet an early grave. Matt Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-27849601575996178072014-01-16T11:41:43.637+00:002014-01-16T11:41:43.637+00:00I picked up on this post after listening to today&...I picked up on this post after listening to today's piece on Women's Hour. I think that you and I might have to agree to disagree on some issues concerning childbirth, but I just wanted to say that I think this is an extremely good piece of writing, making your arguments very well indeed. I agree with you completely that these NICE guidelines - which you have well-explained here - tend to be interpreted in a partial way, and also in a way (whether consciously or not) that is most comfortable for the interpreter.Jo Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-69928573500887965042013-09-24T09:33:07.408+01:002013-09-24T09:33:07.408+01:00I had a section 2 weeks ago and my insurance have ...I had a section 2 weeks ago and my insurance have told me there's no fixed rule and it's just when the doctor feels it is ok, even though I dont have to produce any letter from him. On the meds front I'm only taking Diclofenac (medication to reduce swelling) and paracetamol when I need it.<br /><br />Not really sure what to do about this as I feel I am coping well after the op as I am walking every day!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-19703241546382848532013-08-15T12:40:33.999+01:002013-08-15T12:40:33.999+01:00Just wanted to say thankyou for your blog! I had a...Just wanted to say thankyou for your blog! I had a vaginal birth with my first child - forceps, episiotomy and third degree tear... I healed well, however now have an anal prolapse and infrequent fecal incontinence... Not fun.<br /><br />So, I am pregnant and looking at birth for baby 2 - I have asked many people, and the Obs and GPs are encouraging a ceasarian to avoid further damage which may lead to an increase in incontinence. However - then I have everyone 'not medical' suggesting I NEED to give a 'natural' birth a try and not to be fooled.<br /><br />You're site is the first to suggest it is OKAY to be highly concerned about not being able to control my bowel function and doesn't put me down as a bad mother - less natural or choosing me over my baby!<br /><br />Thank-you for assisting my sanity!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-51114576759855102512013-08-14T09:07:55.585+01:002013-08-14T09:07:55.585+01:00I had a c section last week and I drove this morni...I had a c section last week and I drove this morning (8 days post op). I took my older son to school, its only 5minutes by car and I haven't had pain meds since yesterday. I think individual healing times differ and you must listen to your own body and assess your circumstances. I wouldn't advise anyone to do what I'm doing if they are still taking high dose pain medication because this impedes your ability to focus on the road. Each woman to herself! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-18792136071700520022013-08-14T04:01:37.135+01:002013-08-14T04:01:37.135+01:00I am so inspired with the things you have shared h...I am so inspired with the things you have shared here. All the information will be very helpful to us. Keep blogging! Have a nice day.birth trauma lawyerhttp://www.johnsoninjurylaw.com/birth-trauma.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-74936569327631092362013-08-09T13:52:07.238+01:002013-08-09T13:52:07.238+01:00And thank you for taking the time to comment with ...And thank you for taking the time to comment with such positive support. :-)cesarean debatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01711913972260724246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4181472671648618071.post-54040608668937521542013-08-09T13:45:55.202+01:002013-08-09T13:45:55.202+01:00Pauline, thanks for "keeping up the good figh...Pauline, thanks for "keeping up the good fight" for all of us. I'm also glad to see some attention being paid to ensuring that those of us with a previous cesarean continue to have access to "CBAC" if we so choose.Breastfeeding Without BShttp://www.breastfeedingwithoutbs.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com